Propeller
Controllable Pitch Propeller
The benefits of controllable pitch propellers (CPP) specifically
for a sailing/cursing/workboat.
* The props speed vs. power can be adjusted according to varying
cargo loads.
* Drag can be reduced or increased to meet the sailing conditions.
* The pitch can be adjusted match meet the required rpm of a
generator that is being powered from the drive shaft.
* No reversing gear is required.
* Prop walk can be reduced by reducing the pitch.
* With a reversing gear and prop you can prop walk the boat in
either direction.
* Individual blades can be replaced.
Typically, the drop in propeller efficiency owing to the larger
boss (prop hub) size of a controllable pitch propeller is about 2 percent.
However, if a controllable-pitch propeller is well designed and
correctly operated, it can result in fuel savings of up to 15
percent compared with a fixed-pitch propeller operating in a nozzle.
--www.fao.org
The big down side to a controllable pitch prop is the cost. Hundested; www.hundestedpropeller.dk, is renown for some of the
best controllable pitch props so got a quote from McGowan Marine Inc. 1-508 990-1114
stevegow@aol.com, on a new system for a
70ft motor sailor is $66,913 plus shipping. Needless to say I am no longer looking a new Hundested drive
systems.
Affordable Fixed Pitch Props
Rotation
Most engines are left hand rotation. Meaning that if you
look at the engine's fly wheel from the back it will rotate
counter clockwise, or the top of the
flywheel will be moving toward the left. Also most inboard props
are left hand meaning they push the boat forward when they spin
counter clockwise as seen from the back end. This happens to work out just fine when using a
differential as a gear box provided the engine is mounted on the
port side so that the right axel turns the prop shaft.
Prop Sizing
Max allowable propeller diameter 34" - 36" Need 10%
clearance between the blade tip and bottom to reduce noise.
Vessel Max & cruising boat speeds 12 knts max 10 knts cruise in 15
knt wind
Displacement, length & LWL of the vessel 40 ton, 20 ton cargo, 74ft,
28ft
Shaft length: 20 ft ??
Using an Eaton Rear End Differential gives a 3.25/1 reduction.
Read more about that here:
So Here Is What I'm Thinking About
Mounting the engine to the differential abeam (transverse) on the
port side
Using a John Deere 6068SFM M1; 119 SAE hp ( 88.7 kW) @ 2,132 RPM.
Read more about that here: John Deere
Using a fully loaded boat @ 40 tons, or a partially loaded boat with
good towing ability.
The recommended prop is a 3 blade, left hand, 32 inch, 27 pitch
The calculations below are from
www.boatdiesel.com but
the calculator is limited unless you buy a membership.
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John Deere 6068SFM M1 - 30 tons |
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Hull Speed:
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11.0
kts. |
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Power
Required: |
119
shp. |
MAX
PERFORMANCE
Available Power:
149.4 SAE hp
( 111.4 kW) @ 2300 RPM
Power Used:
119 SAE hp ( 88.7 kW) @ 2,132
RPM
Max Speed:
11.0 kts
Fuel:
7.0 US
Gall/Hr (typical)
CRUISING PERFORMANCE
Cruising Power:
50 SAE hp (
37.5 kW) @ 1600 RPM
Cruising Speed:
8.3 kts
Fuel:
3 US Gall/Hr
(typical)
RECOMMENDED PROPELLER
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Diameter: |
33.4 in. |
Pitch: |
29.6 in. |
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Blades: |
3 |
Cupped: |
No |
Transmission Ratio
Acceptable
PROPELLER BASED ON INPUT DIAMETER
Diameter:
35.0
Pitch:
27.7
Blades:
3
ALTERNATIVE GEAR/PROP COMBINATIONS
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Gear Ratio |
Shaft RPM |
Dia. |
Pitch |
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1.6 |
1438 |
21 |
15 |
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1.8 |
1278 |
22 |
16 |
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2 |
1150 |
24 |
18 |
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2.2 |
1045 |
25 |
20 |
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2.4 |
958 |
27 |
22 |
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2.6 |
885 |
28 |
24 |
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2.8 |
821 |
29 |
25 |
|
3 |
767 |
30 |
27 |
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3.2 |
719 |
32 |
29 |
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3.4 |
676 |
33 |
31 |
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3.6 |
639 |
34 |
33 |
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3.8 |
605 |
35 |
35 |
|
4 |
575 |
36 |
36 |
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No other
suggestions using practical gear ratios. |
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All are
acceptable - but the lighter the row color -
the more efficient the prop at this boat
speed. |
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| 25 Kw - Electric Motor - 30 ton |
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Hull Speed:
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11.0
kts. |
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Power
Required: |
119
shp. |
MAX
PERFORMANCE
Available Power:
32.0 SAE hp
( 23.9 kW) @ 1800 RPM
Max Speed:
7.1 kts
Fuel:
2 US Gall/Hr
(typical)
RECOMMENDED PROPELLER
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Diameter: |
32.2 in. |
Pitch: |
30.4 in. |
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Blades: |
3 |
Cupped: |
No |
Decreasing the
transmission ratio will improve prop efficiency.
PROPELLER
BASED ON INPUT DIAMETER
Diameter:
35.0
Pitch:
27.1
Blades:
3
ALTERNATIVE GEAR/PROP COMBINATIONS
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Gear Ratio |
Shaft RPM |
Dia. |
Pitch |
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1.2 |
1500 |
15 |
9 |
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1.4 |
1286 |
16 |
11 |
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1.6 |
1125 |
18 |
12 |
|
1.8 |
1000 |
19 |
14 |
|
2 |
900 |
20 |
15 |
|
2.2 |
818 |
21 |
17 |
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2.4 |
750 |
23 |
18 |
|
2.6 |
692 |
24 |
20 |
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2.8 |
643 |
25 |
21 |
|
3 |
600 |
26 |
23 |
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John Deere 6068SFM M1 - 40 tons |
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Hull Speed:
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11.0
kts. |
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Power
Required: |
159
shp. |
MAX
PERFORMANCE
Available Power:
149.4 SAE hp
( 111.4 kW) @ 2300 RPM
Max Speed:
10.8 kts
Fuel:
9 US Gall/Hr
(typical)
CRUISING PERFORMANCE
Cruising Power:
50 SAE hp (
37.5 kW) @ 1600 RPM
Cruising Speed:
7.5 kts
Fuel:
3 US Gall/Hr
(typical)
RECOMMENDED
PROPELLER
|
Diameter: |
33.4 in. |
Pitch: |
27.4 in. |
|
Blades: |
3 |
Cupped: |
No |
Transmission Ratio
Acceptable
PROPELLER BASED ON INPUT DIAMETER
Diameter:
35.0
Pitch:
25.5
Blades:
3 ALTERNATIVE
GEAR/PROP COMBINATIONS
|
Gear Ratio |
Shaft RPM |
Dia. |
Pitch |
|
1.8 |
1278 |
22 |
15 |
|
2 |
1150 |
24 |
17 |
|
2.2 |
1045 |
25 |
19 |
|
2.4 |
958 |
27 |
20 |
|
2.6 |
885 |
28 |
22 |
|
2.8 |
821 |
29 |
24 |
|
3 |
767 |
30 |
25 |
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3.2 |
719 |
32 |
27 |
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3.4 |
676 |
33 |
29 |
|
3.6 |
639 |
34 |
30 |
|
3.8 |
605 |
35 |
32 |
|
4 |
575 |
36 |
34 |
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No other
suggestions using practical gear ratios. |
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All are
acceptable - but the lighter the row color -
the more efficient the prop at this boat
speed. |
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Buying a Prop
If you live on the coast this will be a piece of cake, but if you
live in Tulsa, Oklahoma you will likely have to shop by email.
Brent Swain's advise "Get a prop within 4 inches of the pitch you
want, preferably closer. Any more and if you try to re-pitch a prop
more than 4 inches the blade breaks off."
To test a used prop is to rest it on the hub and then tap the end
of each blade. It should produce a clear ringing. If it
is dull and short lived then pass it up.
I located Nap via CraigsList who has more than a few props down
toward New Orleans. Nap has a new prop that someone did not
come and get. It is a 3 blade, left hand, 33" dia. x 33" pitch,
bronze prop with a 2.5" hub, for $1,100. And for $1,250
we can have it cut down and re-pitched to 32 x 27 - 2.5".
Stainless Steel Propeller
Another option is a new stainless steel prop from Kahlenberg
propeller that is intended for use on work boats. We plan to
frequently work in shallow waters and close to obstacles so a
stronger prop might be worth the extra money. The price for
a 3 blade 304 stainless steel propeller 32" in diameter with a 27"
pitch, left hand, bored for a 2.4" shaft is $3,995; F.O.B. Two
Rivers, Wi. Contact: Steve Kahlenberg, Kahlenberg Bros. Co., Ph:
920-793-4507, www.kahlenberg.com.
Kevin Morin builds boats up in Alaska and he highly recommended
stainless steel wheels; "My examples were fishing commercially,
justification for these wheels was their ability to run in gravel
bars of Bristol Bay and keep running without damage."
Building a Steel Propeller from Scratch
I came across a bit below in the Wylo-II group from Lex
Hodgkinson.
"Hi Passepatu has had a mild steel propeller welded to a mild steel
shaft for over 14 years now, I welded up the prop from 5mm plate
scraps and welded this directly on to the shaft. This system has
been pretty much trouble free
with only two cases of mild pitting on the blades when I allowed the
small anode on the prop boss to get eaten away. This was remedied
with an electric weld build up of the pitted areas followed by
grinding, all done in Situ.
(on the hard!) The system has a small anode on the prop boss, a
small one on the rudder and a similar one on the hull close to the
propshaft area. I cast these myself, they are roughly 1" dia by one
inch long and last around a year.
The propellor is painted with chlorinated rubber paint (as is the
whole boat) and antifouled with the same paint as the hull
(ablating, not the best but I found "hard" antifouling to last even
less) The shaft bearing is "Thordon" or similar, some sort of fibre,
and has never been replaced, the inboard seal is a "dripless" fibre
ring that bears on a bronze plate, which I replaced with stainless
steel. Works ok but the grease filled shaft leaks grease inboard,
just a nuisance. No water leakage at all, just cobwebs in our bilge!
We have no inboard bearing, all thrust being taken by the Hurth
gearbox.
We have a dry exhaust and therefor no cooling water to exit at this
seal and cool it, (I think that was the cause of the bronze plate
wearing too fast) The whole thing works very very well, cost begger
all and seems to incur no problems, I would be far more nervous with
a thousand dollars or more tied up in a machined stainless shaft
with bronze prop. I have a grease gun piped into the prop shaft tube
and give it a squirt now an then.
Incidentally it is easy to alter the pitch if you feel so inclined,
by either belting it with a hammer or twisting the blades with a
large wrench The prop is two blade 17x11 approx and the motor a 35hp
Nannidiesel. It will max out at around 2500 rpm (max design rpm 3000)
Hope this helps, DONT let the "experts" say you cant do this in mild
steel, it works and can be repaired or replaced easily and cheaply,
Incidentall we have been careful not to have anything but mild steel
underwater. Lex"
Lex is using a 1.8 to 1 Hurth gearbox, so the 3000 engine RPM is
1666 at the prop.
"The prop was built using a simple steel jig to compare the blade
shapes to ensure they were the same and at right angles to each
other, pitch was checked at two or three locations with more
attention paid to the outer 1/4 and the tips. Balance was checked
simply by mounting on centers and grinding to achieve no bias. The
blades with some reinforcement at the roots were mounted into slots
cut into a 2"dia hub which was drilled to 1 1/4" to accept the
shaft. The hub is welded to the shaft only at the aft end."
--Lex.
Vibrators
The frequency in Hz transmitted by the propeller to the hull is
given by
where: n = number of blades N = number of rpm of the propeller
shaft.
Source:
www.nautica.it/superyacht/527/tecnica/vibrations.htm
So our 3 blade prop turning at 500 cruising to 719 RPM running at
wide open throttle gives us an frequency from 25 to 36Hz. If we
dropped to 2 blades, that would be 17 to 24Hz.
A prop also have a natural frequency which is mainly derived by the
length and thickness of the blades. If you whack the blade with a
hammer, it will resonate at it's "natural frequency", like a tuning
fork. If the generated frequency from the RPM is close to the props
natural frequency then the amplitude or strength of the vibrations
will greatly increase. Like two kids on either end of a jump rope.
If one shakes the rope up and down fast and the other does it slow
then the rope never bounces that high. But if they get in sync with
each other then the wave in the rope is magnified. Soon the rope
breaks and hits both kids in the head and their parents subsequently
sue the school for not training their kids on how to properly use a
jump rope; but I digress.
So the idea is to separate the frequencies as much as possible. The
natural frequency of the prop is a function measurement of how stiff
the blade is built. A really thick, stiff blade will have a higher
frequency that an thinner, floppier blade. Since a floppy blade is
easier to destroy it makes since to make the blade with a higher
frequency. The problem is that the bigger the blades the lower the
natural frequency. We could make the frequency created by spinning
the prop higher by increase the rpm, but that adversely impacts
power. However a 3 blade prop is better that 2 so that is an easy
choice. And since adding thickness to a blade only slightly affects
it's performance. Doubling the plate at the root of the blade would
likely go a long way increasing it's frequency. It won't do any harm
when it smacks into a log either.
Is that it? I don't guess there is an easy way to predict the
natural frequency of a blade is there?
Prop Resources
www.boatdiesel.com
www.usedprop.com
www.a1discountprop.com
www.tacomapropeller.com
Examples
76 Centreboard ketch, 200 hp at 2200 RPM; Cruising speed 10 knots
Twin disc MG 507 gearbox driving a Hundested variable pitch VP 4
FRQA propeller with a drip free type shaft seal.
85' Ketch, Volvo Penta 180hp diesel (1982) Gearbox: low torque
with twin disc transmission. Propeller: Hundested variable pitch
propeller.
56 Motorsailer, 173-horsepower L1066T.2 Lugger marine diesel engine
and Twin Disc transmission connected to the Hundested propeller.
65-foot, twin keel sailing vessel, Gardner 8LXB with a Twin Disc MG
509 reversing and reduction gear. This is a 13.93 liter in line 8
cylinder direct injection engine which develops 176 BHP at 1500 rpm.
Idle is set at 450, and cruising rpm is 750 to 1000. Sterngear is a
Hundested VP4-FROA Variable Pitch propeller system. Pitch control is
from the pilot house.
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